On March 27, the talk show host appeared as a guest on the “Not Gonna Lie with Kylie Kelce” podcast. During the sit-down, Clarkson reflected on her career, from her start as the first-ever winner of “American Idol” in 2002 until now.

Kelly Clarkson’s career after her American Idol win wasn’t as glamorous as many would expect. “After I won Idol, people were like, ‘Oh she’s a millionaire.’ No I wasn’t,” the singer, 42, said on the Thursday,